I've known Matt Staab for a long time.

I interviewed a few times over the years -- way back when he was a city commissioner and I was editor at Tempest. It was great to have him on The Patrick Lalley Show on Tuesday to catch up with what's doing now (owning and running a bait and tackle shop with storage and high-end dog food) and get his opinions on a whole range of issues.

I pulled this segment from the show because it's the part where we get into on health care but agree that Jason Isbell is a fantastic artist. Matt's basically an Isbell fanboy so there's that.

Enjoy.

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